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With summer in our rearview mirror, these IISE members take us back to a sultry August commenting on articles from that month's issue of ISE. Enjoy their perspectives along with new videos on the IISE YouTube channel. 


In work study, different systems can make for different times

Speaking of time, I wanted to comment on your article "For work study, let's go to the video" (August 2017). I did a lot of "paper stopwatch" work for General Electric at the corporate staff level. I will call this "a large manufacturing company (LMC)."

I taught users and I taught teachers the system this company used. And I found time to make comparisons between this company's system and MTM (methods-time measurement). Both were used for incentive systems. Both were acceptable to courts and somewhat to unions. I was not acceptable to unions, however.

Both systems have roots in the work of Frank and Lillian Gilbreth and Frederick W. Taylor. Both systems employed cameras and mathematical methods to determine times for certain moves. But when the same job was analyzed, the results were different. I do not know how this was explained. But I do know that the LMC focused on methods, saying "the method determines the time."

Well, sort of. If the times are correct.

A word of caution is important about cameras. People have the right not to be photographed in most places. Those who agree to be photographed could be called management stooges by some, and the rate at which they worked in front of a camera could be challenged.

At any rate, the LMC sold off its labor-intensive businesses. In doing so, it lost the need for a large hunk of its labor measurement corporate staff. It gave up court cases about incentive systems and physical damage from repetitive operations, too. The LMC probably came out ahead. I moved on to VP of general management in other companies, where we developed general mathematical systems of work measurement.

"Paper stopwatch systems" sound very modern and accurate. But they seem to employ guesswork of all kinds.

They must be used judicially.

Thomas S. Fiske
Fullerton, California

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